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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bag on September 21, 2008, 11:33:31 PM
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machine stopped even starting up. I'm about 95% sure my MB is fried/fucked. I really need to get back in business pretty quickly. I have odds and ends for components, but honestly, I don't trust myself to build something entirely from scratch. what I need is a fully-built machine that I can upgrade, at a decent price. I really can't exceed $800ish. time is of the essence, but if someone trustworthy wants to pick out all the components I'd need outside of, say, hard drive + power supply, that works, too. hepl.
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options so far:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229049
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227071
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227080
I could also build a machine w/cyberpower pretty cheap: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_II/
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options so far:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229049
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227071
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227080
I could also build a machine w/cyberpower pretty cheap: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_II/
Most of the pre-builts are pretty shady, but you can definately just get away with buying a new motherboard and case, you already know the processor, power supply, and video card are still good no sense in spending any more than what you need, but I would definately pick up a new case the one you have is pretty poor cooling for that current setup.
Just out of curiosity have you tried swapping out that new poweer supply you bought for the old one to see if that is the issue?
I can give you any help you need re-building, but definitely try swapping out that power supply first, the last time I thought my machine was fried it ended up the power supply (which is a pretty common problem for machines not powering up).
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Here is the best motherboard available for the AMD platform: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130161
This probably the best value for a case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
That memory I gave you would probably work just fine with that motherboard (considering I have the same motherboard and it worked just fine with it).
Only thing you will need besides those components is the OS did your dell come with an install disk?
If not you need to buy an OEM copy of windows: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116485
*Edit*
If you really don't trust the memory I gave you than this is the way to go: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145177
Windows 32-bit operating systems can only recognize a total of something like 3.12GB of memory so if you wanted to go with that than a 4GB kit is the way to go here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145176
The only way to recognize more than 3GB of memory is to get Windows 64-bit which would probably cause you more headaches I think.
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options so far:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229049
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227071
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227080
I could also build a machine w/cyberpower pretty cheap: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_II/
I had cyberpower make a machine for me. The machine itself is fine, but it took way to long for them to make it. I would probably just do the repairs yourself.
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after much consideration, I opted to go with a cyberpower machine. I really don't have the time or desire to rebuild my machine. I did try swapping in the old power supply and that plain wasn't it. In terms of the time it takes to rebuild a new PC from the ground up, and the fact that I'd have to buy a new HD since I do not want to format mine... I'm looking at minimum 400 + shipping + tax + time. I was able to get a pretty nice intel dual-core cyberpower PC shipped for $611. here's hoping that goes smoothly.
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after much consideration, I opted to go with a cyberpower machine. I really don't have the time or desire to rebuild my machine. I did try swapping in the old power supply and that plain wasn't it. In terms of the time it takes to rebuild a new PC from the ground up, and the fact that I'd have to buy a new HD since I do not want to format mine... I'm looking at minimum 400 + shipping + tax + time. I was able to get a pretty nice intel dual-core cyberpower PC shipped for $611. here's hoping that goes smoothly.
PM sent
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so now it works, but I have to take the battery out and reset the jumpers every time I boot lawl. this is a very temporary solution, but here's what I am thinking:
processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-19-115-036-_-Homepage
MB:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138122 or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135066
HD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136112
plz post case or other suggesstions.
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Don't get that HDD. Both of your MoBo selections support SATA, so buy a SATA HDD. Faster, and less space-intensive as far as internals are concerned. Plus, 140gb for 40 bucks is something of a rip off. You can get 300-500gb for like 100, which is a much better deal in the end. Check this out:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136204
90 bucks, 400 gigs at SATA speeds. Can't beat it!
As for your case,
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=antec%20900
That's the case I use, and I'm running a very high performance machine. It has cooling out the ass stock, has amazing build quality, and even has an optional input for a side 120mm fan (which I have).
It's only classified as a "mid" tower, but in reality it's much bigger then a mid, and is well spacious enough to accommodate pretty much any component without being cramped, and it leaves a nice channel between the MoBo and drive bays, equipped with harasses, for wire management.
Rest looks solid, though you might want to look into a different heat sink for your processor. Stock is no good.
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Don't get that HDD. Both of your MoBo selections support SATA, so buy a SATA HDD. Faster, and less space-intensive as far as internals are concerned. Plus, 140gb for 40 bucks is something of a rip off. You can get 300-500gb for like 100, which is a much better deal in the end. Check this out:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136204
90 bucks, 400 gigs at SATA speeds. Can't beat it!
As for your case,
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=antec%20900
That's the case I use, and I'm running a very high performance machine. It has cooling out the ass stock, has amazing build quality, and even has an optional input for a side 120mm fan (which I have).
It's only classified as a "mid" tower, but in reality it's much bigger then a mid, and is well spacious enough to accommodate pretty much any component without being cramped, and it leaves a nice channel between the MoBo and drive bays, equipped with harasses, for wire management.
Rest looks solid, though you might want to look into a different heat sink for your processor. Stock is no good.
that case is a bit expensive =x. anything in the $70/$80 range? also: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134 for cooling
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For the HD I would go for serial ATA: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148261
Or if you need to use and IDE100 drive than this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148141
For the motherboard definitely Biostar over the ECS.
That processor is fine.
The case I listed before is still the best value for the $$.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
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If you are getting aftermarket cooling, why go with a retail boxed CPU?
And yeah, that case rome linked is the best you can get at a great price (shipping inc)
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Unless you are going to overclock or something you'll be fine with the cooler it comes with.
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Heatsink def works ;) Arctic Cooling knows their stuff. Good design too, especially if you can get a case with a top mounted exhaust (like the 900).
Oh, as for the MoBo selection, with serious component, I tend to go with brand names, especially EVGA. Their driver/firmware support is awesome, their website is easily accessible and in English, and most of their stuff has a lifetime warranty, meaning if anything ever shits on you again, you can just RMA it.
Might wanna look into MoBos within your price range from them, or another top-tier manufacturer with a solid warranty (I think ASUS gives like 5 years, but their website is garbage).
And, to be honest, any case worth building a reliable computer in is going to be about 100 dollars, unless you can find it on sale somewhere (when I picked up my 900, newegg was selling it for like 90 for some holiday). That said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
Similar design to the 900, it's antec so the build quality is high, and it has all the important exhaust mountings. It won't refrigerate your rig, but it'll keep it in the green
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Unless you are going to overclock or something you'll be fine with the cooler it comes with.
Not only this, but getting some of those aftermarket HSF's secure is probably the biggest pain in the ass out of all the assembly req's
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Unless you are going to overclock or something you'll be fine with the cooler it comes with.
Not only this, but getting some of those aftermarket HSF's secure is probably the biggest pain in the ass out of all the assembly req's
Yeah, but having a directional sink as opposed to the "I blow air at the processor and into the case" stock kind help overall airflow in a big way. 20 bucks and 10 minutes of installation hassle are worth never having to worry about your processor having trouble, and bringing the overall case temp down by venting CPU heat out the top.
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re: antec 300
http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=494
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Don't skimp on the motherboard...remember that's how you got in the mess.
Asus, Gigabyte, DFI are some of the most respected brands. I personally choose Gigabyte.
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so looking at a grand total of $417.80 shipped. should I go for it?
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Don't skimp on the motherboard...remember that's how you got in the mess.
Asus, Gigabyte, DFI are some of the most respected brands. I personally choose Gigabyte.
I opted on the Biostar.
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I'd go with someone other then ASUS, personally. I've never had one of their products not run into some kind of problem, and getting drivers/firmware from them is like fucking a cactus. Don't even get me started on their RMA process, or the fact that their customer support, as far as I can tell, is located somewhere inside India's red light district, and the people who answer the phones are angry they have to stop running their phone-sex operation.
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Relist updated components plox
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148261
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138122
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036
atm
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 ;D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148261 ;D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138122 ???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036 ;D
atm
Sounds like the MoBo is the only component in question, at least looking over some reviews of it.
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what about http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128337
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Despite my aversion to ASUS, within your price range, check out:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131333
Really solid specs, and the reviews (all 5 of em) love it. The one you posted is nice as well, Bag, but it dosen't have a PCIE-2.0 slot, which means if you ever upgrade to a newer graphics card, you won't be running it at 100%
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In-Store pickup. Camb, MA
http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0281097 (CPU)
http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0257446 (CASE)
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=40&threadid=2231367&enterthread=y (HDD)
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what about http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128337
That's not bad really, neither is the Asus Lan listed.
I checked it out and they are all in stock in NJ (both motherboards also) and if you order by noon tomorrow you will have them on Monday.(only reason I know this is because my company orders from Newegg on a weekly basis)
It's only a one day transit time from their warehouse in NJ.
I suggest you have them shipped to your work address also if possible.
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fwiw the asus is the newer chipset.
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went with the asus. order placed.
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components arrived. just waiting on windows and I'm gtg.
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Please assemble your components inside me.
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The disc arrive yet?
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home in 2.5 hours. I'll post, believe you me.
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posting this from new pc :D
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Woot!
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Some random dude has been sitting in vent, I think he's looking for you tath