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General Category => Music, Movies, & TV => Topic started by: Hrafnkel on October 18, 2008, 12:27:49 PM
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I just rented and watched this terrible red-headed step child of a fourth installment that not even CPS would love. It was awful. I swear to God in Heaven that if Shia LeDoucheHole takes the reigns as Henry Jones III in a fifth movie, I will forsake the entire series.
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http://gizmodo.com/392495/indiana-jones-theme-secret-lyrics-uncovered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz6FPhrPat4&feature=related
INDIANA FUCK-ING JOOOONNNESSSS
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http://www.cinematical.com/2008/10/09/watch-this-spielberg-and-lucas-raping-indiana-jones-literally/
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I dont get the hate that Shia gets. IMO hes pretty good. Yes indy IV was a travesty but to pin it one someone that was approached by Harrison Ford, Stephen Spielberg, and George Lucas and say no seems a bit absurd.
Eagle Eye was a fairly good movie as well as Disturbia and I always thought he was funny in Constantine. Any able to explain the hate?
PS: Lucas and Spielberg should be ashamed.
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I did not like the movie. I do not like Shia LeBouf separately but equally for all his roles.
I don't blame Shia for Indiana IV, I blame 3 people promising that it needed to be a great script for another installment and then settling on a piece of crap that should have been considered a waste of time to even read.
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Hank please please please...
Shia LeDoMe
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I agree with Hank, I blame the script more than anything else. It was just bad. Like I wrote this on the bus on the way to my film class bad.
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I was ok with it at first, as it was Indy punching out dudes in military uniforms while not getting hit by bullets, which is what you expect.
And then.
Aliens.
If I had picked up that screenplay I'd have done the world a favour and burnt it on the spot.
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What person in their right mind could possibly let this go to production. Did they watch the first 3 movies? The ark of the covenant and the holy grail belong to god. If you believe in god you believe in the fact that he created the universe, the earth, and man in his image. How can anyone smart enough to dress themselves not see aliens as a conflict in a mutually exclusive system like that. Window licking mother fucking retards.
And don't get me started about surviving a nuclear detonation inside a refrigerator.
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And don't get me started about surviving a nuclear detonation inside a refrigerator.
Haha, I haven't actually seen this movie yet (and not sure I plan to), but having a Physics (and Astronomy) major, it's amazing how many suspense moments are ruined for me in films because they just don't make sense according to basic physics laws (or else make some outlandish Astrophysical references).
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What person in their right mind could possibly let this go to production. Did they watch the first 3 movies? The ark of the covenant and the holy grail belong to god. If you believe in god you believe in the fact that he created the universe, the earth, and man in his image. How can anyone smart enough to dress themselves not see aliens as a conflict in a mutually exclusive system like that. Window licking mother fucking retards.
And don't get me started about surviving a nuclear detonation inside a refrigerator.
I came away from the movie thinking they were playing with the idea that the mayan and egyptian pyramids were somehow influenced by aliens. It kind of followed the theme of the movies, from raiders of the lost arc to the last crusade. It did, though, break the theme of ancient myths by adding high tech aliens and all of that, but it didn't seem like too much of a stretch.
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I'd almost watch this now just to see how awful it is...
Aliens?
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Really?
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And don't get me started about surviving a nuclear detonation inside a refrigerator.
He didn't survive a nuclear detonation. He survived the shockwave and was shielded from the radiation by the lead lining (the refrigerator said "Lead Lined!" on it). The part about the refrigerator flying through the air is just Hollywood fun, but that part isn't actually too far off.
And yes, having aliens in the movie totally ruined it.
Seriously, wtf.
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Wouldn't it get hot in that fridge?
Can we get the physics majors to weigh in on feasibility of lead refrigerator bomb shelters?
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I think they had lead lined refrigerators installed in all the schools in the 1950s, just in case. During a bomb drill it was like a Catholic priests' meat locker.
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http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/SimonFung.shtml
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http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/SimonFung.shtml
That doesn't really answer it.
It wouldn't have been hot in the refrigerator guys. He was not in the epicenter of the explosion. It's also a flash temperature and would only be really hot for a second or 2. Inside a refrigerator would actually the perfect place unless you have a lead lined basement to hide in.
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It wouldn't have been hot in the refrigerator guys. He was not in the epicenter of the explosion. It's also a flash temperature and would only be really hot for a second or 2. Inside a refrigerator would actually the perfect place unless you have a lead lined basement to hide in.
Ok, so yeah, apparently if he was close enough to get hot, he'd be dead in a million other ways. However, from what I've read, such a refrigerator doesn't offer enough thickness to block out the gamma rays. Along with fallout, you'd pretty much be growing a 3rd arm regardless.
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Let us assume for the moment that being inside a lead lined refrigerator is sufficient in the eyes of physics and biology to walk away unharmed as he did in the movie. Here is the problem: manufacturing. Refrigerators, even a lead lined one, are designed to remove heat from the inside compartment. Motors, hoses, vents, and other such devices are needed to perform these tasks. Refrigerators are not air tight. A refrigerator is nothing but a giant sink in energy use, you pay twice the amount of energy to keep food cool because you are fighting several laws of physics. In order for our fridge to in fact protect the hero it cannot have openings for radiation or heat to seep into, but that violates what a refrigerator is manufactured to do.
That is one magical refrigerator.
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A refrigerator can be air tight when closed, it's the thermal contacts with the evaporator and condenser units inside and outside that makes the fridge cold. If all the external parts are also lead-lined, and if that lead is enough to shield the radiation, then the only issue is the heat itself. The walls of the fridge are probably air filled like a thermos, and since air is a poor conductor of heat, it would makes thermal conductivity of the fridge walls low. Since the fridge was a mock fridge for that mock town, then the compressor pipes might have also been filled with just air so it may have not conducted enough heat into the fridge during the blast. Also, from memory, Indy was burried a bit after the blast. The burying may have insulated the heat further.
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I gotta say, at this point the length of this conversation is way out of proportion to my interest in it.
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A refrigerator can be air tight when closed, it's the thermal contacts with the evaporator and condenser units inside and outside that makes the fridge cold. If all the external parts are also lead-lined, and if that lead is enough to shield the radiation, then the only issue is the heat itself. The walls of the fridge are probably air filled like a thermos, and since air is a poor conductor of heat, it would makes thermal conductivity of the fridge walls low. Since the fridge was a mock fridge for that mock town, then the compressor pipes might have also been filled with just air so it may have not conducted enough heat into the fridge during the blast. Also, from memory, Indy was burried a bit after the blast. The burying may have insulated the heat further.
Air tight =/= radiation proof. The fridge is going to have way too many spots where lead doesn't even cover let alone be thick enough to stop the radiation. What is this the 50s? Should I cover my head and hide under my desk to stay safe ?
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A refrigerator can be air tight when closed, it's the thermal contacts with the evaporator and condenser units inside and outside that makes the fridge cold. If all the external parts are also lead-lined, and if that lead is enough to shield the radiation, then the only issue is the heat itself. The walls of the fridge are probably air filled like a thermos, and since air is a poor conductor of heat, it would makes thermal conductivity of the fridge walls low. Since the fridge was a mock fridge for that mock town, then the compressor pipes might have also been filled with just air so it may have not conducted enough heat into the fridge during the blast. Also, from memory, Indy was burried a bit after the blast. The burying may have insulated the heat further.
Air tight =/= radiation proof. The fridge is going to have way too many spots where lead doesn't even cover let alone be thick enough to stop the radiation. What is this the 50s? Should I cover my head and hide under my desk to stay safe ?
That's true that air tight =/= radiation proof but that's why I made a point about being lead lined. If the whole thing was lined with lead such that it pretty much forms a closed lead shell, including condenser pipes and all, and if the lead were thick enough to ward away the radiation then I could kinda see it being enough to save Indy.
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A refrigerator can be air tight when closed, it's the thermal contacts with the evaporator and condenser units inside and outside that makes the fridge cold. If all the external parts are also lead-lined, and if that lead is enough to shield the radiation, then the only issue is the heat itself. The walls of the fridge are probably air filled like a thermos, and since air is a poor conductor of heat, it would makes thermal conductivity of the fridge walls low. Since the fridge was a mock fridge for that mock town, then the compressor pipes might have also been filled with just air so it may have not conducted enough heat into the fridge during the blast. Also, from memory, Indy was burried a bit after the blast. The burying may have insulated the heat further.
Air tight =/= radiation proof. The fridge is going to have way too many spots where lead doesn't even cover let alone be thick enough to stop the radiation. What is this the 50s? Should I cover my head and hide under my desk to stay safe ?
That's true that air tight =/= radiation proof but that's why I made a point about being lead lined. If the whole thing was lined with lead such that it pretty much forms a closed lead shell, including condenser pipes and all, and if the lead were thick enough to ward away the radiation then I could kinda see it being enough to save Indy.
Which begs the question... why the fuck would anyone design a refrigerator in such a fashion?
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The refrigerator would only have to be shielded on the side facing the detonation. Fallout would not be an issue unless the wind blew it towards him.
Now back to turning into a large feline beast and attacking shadow bolting demons.
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Its no more ridiculous than any other Indiana Jones movie where an Adventurer with a whip beats an entire division of Nazi special forces.
The script sucked in every other aspect.